A listener proposes that the universe is an incubator and that human and artificial intelligence are not two kinds of thing but one, and this opening part takes that claim at full strength before testing it. It gives the functionalist argument that carries the proposal, that a mental state is fixed by what it does rather than by what it is made of, and that one mental kind admits many physical kinds. Then it gives the objection from underneath, the hard problem of consciousness and the philosophical zombie, its full weight, and names the cost of the argument, which is that it admits any sufficiently organised system. It closes on the relocation that answers the objection by asking what any rule can actually reach, the five marks both parties share, and the symmetrical consequence that follows.

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